Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set up a new gmail (google
mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and fore some reason
can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different accounts (pop3) which
work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because gmail, for the
incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server, requires encrypted
connection (SSL) and different server port numbers (changed manually when
you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't found the way to do
this on Pocket Outlook.

I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they answered that they can
help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...? No way, but keep using
their email...
Not happy! Please help me??

I finally got it to work on ipaq 5550.

I tried every variation I could within th elimitations of
wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while connected to
the internet via wireless it started to work.

The difficulty now is that when new mail is received or even
if there is no new mail the send / receive process removes
the contents of the inbox on the PPC

Basically I think it is a bit "hit and miss"


"Bianca" <bianca.ns@ns.it> wrote in message
news:448029f4$0$14788$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it ...
> Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set up a
new gmail (google
> mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and
fore some reason
> can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different
accounts (pop3) which
> work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because
gmail, for the
> incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server,
requires encrypted
> connection (SSL) and different server port numbers
(changed manually when
> you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't
found the way to do
> this on Pocket Outlook.
>
> I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they
answered that they can
> help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...? No
way, but keep using
> their email...
> Not happy! Please help me??
>
>

Bianca wrote:
> Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set up a new gmail (google
> mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and fore some reason
> can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different accounts (pop3) which
> work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because gmail, for the
> incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server, requires encrypted
> connection (SSL) and different server port numbers (changed manually when
> you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't found the way to do
> this on Pocket Outlook.
>
> I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they answered that they can
> help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...? No way, but keep using
> their email...
> Not happy! Please help me??
>
>
I've used gmail in WM5 with no problems, it also auto configured the client.
Have you enabled pop access in gmail?

Geoffw wrote:
> I finally got it to work on ipaq 5550.
>
> I tried every variation I could within th elimitations of
> wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while connected to
> the internet via wireless it started to work.
>
> The difficulty now is that when new mail is received or even
> if there is no new mail the send / receive process removes
> the contents of the inbox on the PPC
>
> Basically I think it is a bit "hit and miss"
>
>
> "Bianca" <bianca.ns@ns.it> wrote in message
> news:448029f4$0$14788$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it ...
>> Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set up a
> new gmail (google
>> mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and
> fore some reason
>> can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different
> accounts (pop3) which
>> work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because
> gmail, for the
>> incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server,
> requires encrypted
>> connection (SSL) and different server port numbers
> (changed manually when
>> you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't
> found the way to do
>> this on Pocket Outlook.
>>
>> I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they
> answered that they can
>> help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...? No
> way, but keep using
>> their email...
>> Not happy! Please help me??
>>
>>
>
>
Thats probably the due to the number of days your device is set to store
messages, mine defaulted to 3 days.

"MrJim" <mrjim@nospam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:e5pcrc$1n32$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> I've used gmail in WM5 with no problems, it also auto configured the
> client.
> Have you enabled pop access in gmail?

yes, I'm using it with no problem on my PC. Maybe the difference is with WM
2003? There is no autoconfigure on my gmail site, only for Blackberry...

"Geoffw" <geoffwin@SPAMgmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:O1V2FQkhGHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> I tried every variation I could within th elimitations of
> wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while connected to
> the internet via wireless it started to work.
>
There's no automatic setup for mine (Pocket Outlook), for PDA's there's only
Blackberry Internet service. Where do you see the automatic setup?
This is my setup page with all the program options I have:
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=it&answer=12103

Hey, thanks for your help!

Nope, it's a bug with gmail itself and is based on the fact that Messaging
doesn't show past messages not present on the POP3 server any more.

Right now, this bug can't be helped - gmail has always been buggy in this
respect.

The bets solution to avoid the problems resulting from it is switching to an
alternative client that has mail history and, therefore, doesn't suffer from
this bug; for example, FlexMail or Qmail.

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Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.



"MrJim" <mrjim@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:e5pdfc$1n8d$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> Geoffw wrote:
>> I finally got it to work on ipaq 5550.
>>
>> I tried every variation I could within th elimitations of
>> wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while connected to
>> the internet via wireless it started to work.
>>
>> The difficulty now is that when new mail is received or even
>> if there is no new mail the send / receive process removes
>> the contents of the inbox on the PPC
>>
>> Basically I think it is a bit "hit and miss"
>>
>>
>> "Bianca" <bianca.ns@ns.it> wrote in message
>> news:448029f4$0$14788$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it ...
>>> Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set up a
>> new gmail (google
>>> mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and
>> fore some reason
>>> can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different
>> accounts (pop3) which
>>> work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because
>> gmail, for the
>>> incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server,
>> requires encrypted
>>> connection (SSL) and different server port numbers
>> (changed manually when
>>> you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't
>> found the way to do
>>> this on Pocket Outlook.
>>>
>>> I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they
>> answered that they can
>>> help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...? No
>> way, but keep using
>>> their email...
>>> Not happy! Please help me??
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> Thats probably the due to the number of days your device is set to store
> messages, mine defaulted to 3 days.

Please check out the mini-gmail-setup tutorial in my Roundup of mailer apps
(see my blog). Several users have successfully set up their mailer apps
based on the tutorial.

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Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.



"Bianca" <bianca.ns@ns.it> wrote in message
news:44806a45$0$36927$4fafbaef@reader3.news.tin.it ...
>
> "Geoffw" <geoffwin@SPAMgmail.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:O1V2FQkhGHA.460@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I tried every variation I could within th elimitations of
>> wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while connected to
>> the internet via wireless it started to work.
>>
> There's no automatic setup for mine (Pocket Outlook), for PDA's there's
> only Blackberry Internet service. Where do you see the automatic setup?
> This is my setup page with all the program options I have:
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=%67mail&hl=it&answer=12103
>
> Hey, thanks for your help!
>

"Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com> ha
scritto nel messaggio news:eZ70TgnhGHA.4712@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Please check out the mini-gmail-setup tutorial in my Roundup of mailer
> apps (see my blog). Several users have successfully set up their mailer
> apps based on the tutorial.
>
Thanks Werner! I saved your blog and will start studying tomorrow, it's
great!

thats what I understood to be the problem, I am moving, via
redirects, my mail to accounts that do not have this problem

Interesting that gmail will keep a record of every email
though it but breaks when you use POP on a PDA (at least in
my case)


"Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT
winmobiletech.com> wrote in message
news:%23c7spfnhGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Nope, it's a bug with gmail itself and is based on the
fact that Messaging
> doesn't show past messages not present on the POP3 server
any more.
>
> Right now, this bug can't be helped - gmail has always
been buggy in this
> respect.
>
> The bets solution to avoid the problems resulting from it
is switching to an
> alternative client that has mail history and, therefore,
doesn't suffer from
> this bug; for example, FlexMail or Qmail.
>
> --
> -----
>
>
>
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP -
Windows - Mobile Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine)
at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely
like it.
>
>
>
> "MrJim" <mrjim@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:e5pdfc$1n8d$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
> > Geoffw wrote:
> >> I finally got it to work on ipaq 5550.
> >>
> >> I tried every variation I could within th elimitations
of
> >> wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while
connected to
> >> the internet via wireless it started to work.
> >>
> >> The difficulty now is that when new mail is received or
even
> >> if there is no new mail the send / receive process
removes
> >> the contents of the inbox on the PPC
> >>
> >> Basically I think it is a bit "hit and miss"
> >>
> >>
> >> "Bianca" <bianca.ns@ns.it> wrote in message
> >> news:448029f4$0$14788$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it ...
> >>> Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set
up a
> >> new gmail (google
> >>> mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and
> >> fore some reason
> >>> can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different
> >> accounts (pop3) which
> >>> work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because
> >> gmail, for the
> >>> incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server,
> >> requires encrypted
> >>> connection (SSL) and different server port numbers
> >> (changed manually when
> >>> you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't
> >> found the way to do
> >>> this on Pocket Outlook.
> >>>
> >>> I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they
> >> answered that they can
> >>> help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...?
No
> >> way, but keep using
> >>> their email...
> >>> Not happy! Please help me??
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> > Thats probably the due to the number of days your device
is set to store
> > messages, mine defaulted to 3 days.
>
>

Yes, autoforwarding your mail to a POP3 account that doesn't hide
already-downloaded mail is a nice solution in addition to alternate E-mail
clients, which also show past e-mails.

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-----



Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.



"Geoffw" <geoffwin@SPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
news:uZECNNthGHA.216@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> thats what I understood to be the problem, I am moving, via
> redirects, my mail to accounts that do not have this problem
>
> Interesting that gmail will keep a record of every email
> though it but breaks when you use POP on a PDA (at least in
> my case)
>
>
> "Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT
> winmobiletech.com> wrote in message
> news:%23c7spfnhGHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Nope, it's a bug with gmail itself and is based on the
> fact that Messaging
>> doesn't show past messages not present on the POP3 server
> any more.
>>
>> Right now, this bug can't be helped - gmail has always
> been buggy in this
>> respect.
>>
>> The bets solution to avoid the problems resulting from it
> is switching to an
>> alternative client that has mail history and, therefore,
> doesn't suffer from
>> this bug; for example, FlexMail or Qmail.
>>
>> --
>> -----
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP -
> Windows - Mobile Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine)
> at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely
> like it.
>>
>>
>>
>> "MrJim" <mrjim@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:e5pdfc$1n8d$1@godfrey.mcc.ac.uk...
>> > Geoffw wrote:
>> >> I finally got it to work on ipaq 5550.
>> >>
>> >> I tried every variation I could within th elimitations
> of
>> >> wm2003 and then using the automatic setup while
> connected to
>> >> the internet via wireless it started to work.
>> >>
>> >> The difficulty now is that when new mail is received or
> even
>> >> if there is no new mail the send / receive process
> removes
>> >> the contents of the inbox on the PPC
>> >>
>> >> Basically I think it is a bit "hit and miss"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Bianca" <bianca.ns@ns.it> wrote in message
>> >> news:448029f4$0$14788$4fafbaef@reader4.news.tin.it ...
>> >>> Hi, I hope I'm not OT (?) but I've been trying to set
> up a
>> >> new gmail (google
>> >>> mail) account on a Qtek 2020 (Windows Mobile 2003) and
>> >> fore some reason
>> >>> can't seem to get it to work. I set up 3 different
>> >> accounts (pop3) which
>> >>> work wonderfully but gmail? Nothing. It may be because
>> >> gmail, for the
>> >>> incoming pop3 server and for the outgoing SMTP server,
>> >> requires encrypted
>> >>> connection (SSL) and different server port numbers
>> >> (changed manually when
>> >>> you set up the account on Outlook 2003), but I haven't
>> >> found the way to do
>> >>> this on Pocket Outlook.
>> >>>
>> >>> I tried writing to Google Mail at gmail.com and they
>> >> answered that they can
>> >>> help me if I have a Blackberry but with a WM PDA...?
> No
>> >> way, but keep using
>> >>> their email...
>> >>> Not happy! Please help me??
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> > Thats probably the due to the number of days your device
> is set to store
>> > messages, mine defaulted to 3 days.
>>
>>
>
>