I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
will Linux and ready to learn Palm.

Thanks,

Zalek

Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems under
WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the Fujitsu-Siemens
N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as it's cheap, its
srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the best - you'll hate
it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).

Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with the
hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.

--
-----



Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.



"zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
> replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
> will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Zalek
>

Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev wrote:
> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems under
> WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the Fujitsu-Siemens
> N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as it's cheap, its
> srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the best - you'll hate
> it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>
> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with the
> hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>
> --
> -----

Few questions:
What advantages gives WM5 over WM2003 SE?
What are problems in WM5 you solved?
I bought SKTools, changed some options and I have impression that my
iPAQ is little faster now.

Zalek


>
>
>
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
>
> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> >I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
> > replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
> > will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Zalek
> >

> What advantages gives WM5 over WM2003 SE?

Some spiced-up Office Mobile apps; better IE, better Messaging. Nothing
really groundbreaking though.

> What are problems in WM5 you solved?

Numerous issues. See my latest hx4700 & WM5-related posts at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&cat=96



--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148236159.148817.272110@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>
> Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev wrote:
>> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
>> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
>> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems
>> under
>> WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the Fujitsu-Siemens
>> N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as it's cheap, its
>> srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the best - you'll
>> hate
>> it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>>
>> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with
>> the
>> hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>>
>> --
>> -----
>
> Few questions:
> What advantages gives WM5 over WM2003 SE?
> What are problems in WM5 you solved?
> I bought SKTools, changed some options and I have impression that my
> iPAQ is little faster now.
>
> Zalek
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>> Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>
>>
>>
>> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> >I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>> > replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>> > will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Zalek
>> >
>

Respectfully disagree on the x51v screen. I personally find it quite
readable and easy on the eyes.

As for battery life, would agree, it isn't the greatest.

Regards,

--
Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]

Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! ~ http://www.clintonfitch.com
HPC:Factor ~ http://www.hpcfactor.com
Read My Blog! ~ http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24

Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! & HPC:Factor are Smartphone & Pocket PC Magazine
"Best Sites"!


"Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com>
wrote in message news:eehK%23$OfGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems
> under WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the
> Fujitsu-Siemens N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as
> it's cheap, its srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the
> best - you'll hate it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>
> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with the
> hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>
> --
> -----
>
>
>
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
>
> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>> replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>> will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>
>

You missed the non-volatile memory. In my opinion the biggest reason to like
WM5. No longer do you need to be concerned about the battery running down.
All your stuff is retained. Yea you can backup and restore, but that still
takes time on both ends and it is never exactly how you left it.

--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen [MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices]"
<!ei.maileja@kiitos!> wrote in message
news:Ouz38TQfGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> What advantages gives WM5 over WM2003 SE?
>
> Some spiced-up Office Mobile apps; better IE, better Messaging. Nothing
> really groundbreaking though.
>
>> What are problems in WM5 you solved?
>
> Numerous issues. See my latest hx4700 & WM5-related posts at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&cat=96
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> --
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148236159.148817.272110@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev wrote:
>>> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
>>> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not
>>> the
>>> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems
>>> under
>>> WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the Fujitsu-Siemens
>>> N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as it's cheap, its
>>> srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the best - you'll
>>> hate
>>> it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>>>
>>> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with
>>> the
>>> hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----
>>
>> Few questions:
>> What advantages gives WM5 over WM2003 SE?
>> What are problems in WM5 you solved?
>> I bought SKTools, changed some options and I have impression that my
>> iPAQ is little faster now.
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>>> Devices
>>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>> >I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>>> > replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>>> > will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Zalek
>>> >
>>
>
>

I would agree. I 'upgraded' to a Qtek2020i (XDA2 equiv) to get the phone
feature but it's no where near as good as the 4700. The phone - PDA
combination is , IMHO, is not the answer to life the universe and everything
as it's cracked up to be.

"Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com>
wrote in message news:eehK%23$OfGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems
> under WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the
> Fujitsu-Siemens N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as
> it's cheap, its srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the
> best - you'll hate it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>
> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with the
> hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>
> --
> -----
>
>
>
> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
> Devices
> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>
>
>
> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>> replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>> will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Zalek
>>
>
>

Yup, user opinions certainly differ on the x50v/x51v screen. About half of
the voting AximSite members have reported no problems at all with the
screen, while the other half reported the same as I in my blog entry at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=578&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
.. It's fully user-dependent if he/she is sensitive to the uneven
polarization in Landscape mode. (In Portrait, the x51v screen has no
issues - apart from being not very contrasty.)

See http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=115846 and
http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=118987 for more info/related
debates.

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]" <management@spamisbad.clintonfitch.com>
wrote in message news:%232bg9wUfGHA.1792@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Respectfully disagree on the x51v screen. I personally find it quite
> readable and easy on the eyes.
>
> As for battery life, would agree, it isn't the greatest.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! ~ http://www.clintonfitch.com
> HPC:Factor ~ http://www.hpcfactor.com
> Read My Blog! ~ http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=24
>
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com! & HPC:Factor are Smartphone & Pocket PC Magazine
> "Best Sites"!
>
>
> "Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com>
> wrote in message news:eehK%23$OfGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
>> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
>> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems
>> under WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the
>> Fujitsu-Siemens N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as
>> it's cheap, its srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the
>> best - you'll hate it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>>
>> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with
>> the hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>>
>> --
>> -----
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>> Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>
>>
>>
>> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>>> replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>>> will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eTU9lHVfGHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> You missed the non-volatile memory. In my opinion the biggest reason to
> like WM5. No longer do you need to be concerned about the battery running
> down. All your stuff is retained. Yea you can backup and restore, but that
> still takes time on both ends and it is never exactly how you left it.
>


One side effect of the the non-volatile memory use is that program launch is
a bit slower. I personally think the tradeoff is far worth it, but if the
OP is a speed freak it might be something to consider.

Also take into account that writing into flash ROM-based storage is
definitely slower than with RAM, which, in cases, may be a major bottleneck
(for example, this is why the WM5 version of Internet Explorer is definitely
slower - see the benchmarks in my blog - than its WM2003SE predecessor if
you don't relocate its cache onto a well-optimized storage card). In
addition, on non-native WM5 devices running WM5 (hx4700 / x50), you'll also
have to deal with the problem of compaction (filesys.exe).

--


--
Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.


"xTenn" <xTennRemoveThisPart@tds.net> wrote in message
news:u31lJgbfGHA.3468@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eTU9lHVfGHA.4828@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> You missed the non-volatile memory. In my opinion the biggest reason to
>> like WM5. No longer do you need to be concerned about the battery running
>> down. All your stuff is retained. Yea you can backup and restore, but
>> that still takes time on both ends and it is never exactly how you left
>> it.
>>
>
>
> One side effect of the the non-volatile memory use is that program launch
> is a bit slower. I personally think the tradeoff is far worth it, but if
> the OP is a speed freak it might be something to consider.
>
>
>

One must never forget to mention one of the greatest PocketPC's ever made,
the Loox 720. As for the Axims poor battery, that is easily remedied by
using a Mugen 1800 Mah extended battery which is only slightly bigger than
the standard battery.

I cannot recommend the Loox N560 much due to the lack of CF. I like using my
6GB CF along with my 1GB SD, any PocketPC that lacks this simply gives the
user less options for expansion.


"Steve L" <teaontable@bin.yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rIWdnWuMzZ8ip-zZnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com...
>I would agree. I 'upgraded' to a Qtek2020i (XDA2 equiv) to get the phone
>feature but it's no where near as good as the 4700. The phone - PDA
>combination is , IMHO, is not the answer to life the universe and
>everything as it's cracked up to be.
>
> "Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com>
> wrote in message news:eehK%23$OfGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
>> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not the
>> best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest problems
>> under WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the
>> Fujitsu-Siemens N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as
>> it's cheap, its srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the
>> best - you'll hate it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>>
>> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with
>> the hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>>
>> --
>> -----
>>
>>
>>
>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>> Devices
>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>
>>
>>
>> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>>> replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>>> will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Zalek
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

If you *do* use CF, that is :)

Lately, I have completely switched to using SD's (they are cheaper as of now
and, mostly, even faster too) and wouldn't miss the CF slot any more.

In addition, the N560 is a woonderful little device. I'll write a complete
review and comparison of it when I have some free time.

-----



Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile Devices
Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.



"yleas" <yleas@usnet.com> wrote in message
news:Il7dg.204882$tc.127538@fe2.news.blueyonder.co .uk...
> One must never forget to mention one of the greatest PocketPC's ever made,
> the Loox 720. As for the Axims poor battery, that is easily remedied by
> using a Mugen 1800 Mah extended battery which is only slightly bigger than
> the standard battery.
>
> I cannot recommend the Loox N560 much due to the lack of CF. I like using
> my 6GB CF along with my 1GB SD, any PocketPC that lacks this simply gives
> the user less options for expansion.
>
>
> "Steve L" <teaontable@bin.yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rIWdnWuMzZ8ip-zZnZ2dnUVZ8qWdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>I would agree. I 'upgraded' to a Qtek2020i (XDA2 equiv) to get the phone
>>feature but it's no where near as good as the 4700. The phone - PDA
>>combination is , IMHO, is not the answer to life the universe and
>>everything as it's cracked up to be.
>>
>> "Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com>
>> wrote in message news:eehK%23$OfGHA.5104@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> Given that Pocket PC manufacturers aren't really interested in producing
>>> real PDA's any more, the x4700 is still one of the best PDA's (if not
>>> the best), particularly now that I've managed to fix its biggest
>>> problems under WM5. The only worrthy alternative is, in my opinion, the
>>> Fujitsu-Siemens N560. (I wouldn't recommend the Dell Axim x51v. much as
>>> it's cheap, its srceen and battery life is , to put it mildyly, not the
>>> best - you'll hate it if you want tthe same quality as with the 4700).
>>>
>>> Therefore, I think you could have a look at the N560 or just stay with
>>> the hx4700 - it's completely up-to-date with my latest bugfixes.
>>>
>>> --
>>> -----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Werner "Menneisyys" Ruotsalainen - Microsoft MVP - Windows - Mobile
>>> Devices
>>> Please see the Pocket PC Mag Expert Blog (including mine) at
>>> http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/ - you will definitely like it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "zalek" <ZalekBloom@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1148225695.457502.169690@j73g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>I am growing up - my iPAQ 4700 stays the same. What will be a good
>>>> replacement for my iPAQ? Does not have to be PocketPC, I am familiar
>>>> will Linux and ready to learn Palm.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Zalek
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

"Werner Ruotsalainen - MVP - Windows MobDev" <info AT winmobiletech.com>
wrote in message news:%235EqyL8fGHA.5092@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> If you *do* use CF, that is :)
>
> Lately, I have completely switched to using SD's (they are cheaper as of
> now and, mostly, even faster too) and wouldn't miss the CF slot any more.
>


I did that too.. up until I got a device with only a mini-sd slot... :(