Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)

His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Reply to message from "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> (Wed,
04 Jan 2006 19:30:47) about "Congratulations to Clinton Fitch":

> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and responder here
> for over a year and in other forums for his receiving Microsoft's award as a Mobile
> Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)

> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.

> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

I would like to second the congratulations...

Well done...

------
Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

=== Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3 for the PocketPC

Reply to message from "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]"
<BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> (Wed, 04 Jan 2006 20:30:47) about "Congratulations
to Clinton Fitch":

BH> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster
BH> and responder here for over a year and in other forums for his
BH> receiving Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable
BH> Professional)

BH> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all
BH> visitors.

BH> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Way to go, Clinton! Congratulations on the MVP award. Your input here is
very valuable and much appreciated!

Don

===
Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3

Thanks Bev, Al and Don. I appreciate it and I'm honored and happy to be an
MVP.

Regards,

--
Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
Principle
Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
http://www.clintonfitch.com



"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Great job Clinton and welcome aboard you deserve it.

--
--
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The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Hear, hear! Congrats Clinton.

--
Sven
MVP - Mobile Devices
"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Well Done Clinton. I bought a PDA a few months ago with a built in GPS. The
GPS being the main reason I bought it, but having found this newsgroup I now
use it with my digital camera and have also now learnt how to convert DVD
films to play on it. Most of the 'freeware' I have downloaded has been
through recommendations from the likes of you folk, so my thanks to you all.

Ian (more of a 'lurker' to the group than a 'contributor')

"Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eR3GePbEGHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hear, hear! Congrats Clinton.
>
> --
> Sven
> MVP - Mobile Devices
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> > responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> > Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
> >
> > His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all
visitors.
> >
> > Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
> >
>
>

As a fellow lurker and browser of many different forums (fora?) I can say
that this is one of the best regarding friendly advice from MVP's and also
the occasional flame livens up proceedings :)

Ian,

I'm glad the group has helped get you going in some different directions
than you originally planned! :-)

I appreciate the kind words everyone!

Regards,

--
Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
Principle
Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
http://www.clintonfitch.com


"Ian B" <ian.bray@baesystems.com> wrote in message
news:43bce922$1_1@glkas0286.greenlnk.net...
> Well Done Clinton. I bought a PDA a few months ago with a built in GPS.
> The
> GPS being the main reason I bought it, but having found this newsgroup I
> now
> use it with my digital camera and have also now learnt how to convert DVD
> films to play on it. Most of the 'freeware' I have downloaded has been
> through recommendations from the likes of you folk, so my thanks to you
> all.
>
> Ian (more of a 'lurker' to the group than a 'contributor')
>
> "Sven" <sejohannsen@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eR3GePbEGHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hear, hear! Congrats Clinton.
>>
>> --
>> Sven
>> MVP - Mobile Devices
>> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
>> message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> > Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
>> > responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
>> > Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>> >
>> > His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all
> visitors.
>> >
>> > Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:30:47 -0600, "Beverly Howard
[Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:

>Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
>responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
>Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
>His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
>Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

Yay nice work Clinton, glad you made it ;-))

Cheers - Neil

*** Introducing AirFix v1.0b: A new, free software tool for developers and
security experts. Take back the WiFi Active Sync that Microsoft dangerously
removed. Requires a WM5.0 device and ActiveSync 4.x. Read more and download
here:
http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html







"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

"...Microsoft dangerously removed"?

Huh?

--

Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)

Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
mutual benefit of all of us...
The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights...

"a" <andres848@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uD8AGWgEGHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>
> *** Introducing AirFix v1.0b: A new, free software tool for developers and
> security experts. Take back the WiFi Active Sync that Microsoft
> dangerously removed. Requires a WM5.0 device and ActiveSync 4.x. Read more
> and download here:
> http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html
>

I most certainly second this motion, congratulations, it's certainly well
deserved!

--
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Partner / Editor-in-Chief
__________________________________________________ _________________________
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http://www.hpcfactor.com/
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"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

Congrats!

~B

"Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]" <neil@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:s57qr1hdvneero7t3q80rn6i2u3nup2v0g@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:30:47 -0600, "Beverly Howard
> [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote:
>
>>Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
>>responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
>>Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>>
>>His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>>
>>Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>
> Yay nice work Clinton, glad you made it ;-))
>
> Cheers - Neil
>

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:46:53 GMT, Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
wrote:

> Yay nice work Clinton, glad you made it ;-))

Hmmmz, at least one MVP that doesn't toppost... :-)

(Congratz to Clinton BTW)

--
HP iPAQ h2210 | Brando Workshop Protector Plus | HP Leather Belt Case | Kingston CF 1 GiB |
SanDisk CF 256 MiB | Sandisk SD 1 GiB | D-Link DBT-120

And here I am seeing this subject line and thinking that it was another
spam attack on him. Not that that's ever happened before.

Congrats!

Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] wrote:
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:41:14 GMT, "s|b" <private@usenet4all.org>
wrote:

>On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:46:53 GMT, Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
>wrote:
>
>> Yay nice work Clinton, glad you made it ;-))
>
>Hmmmz, at least one MVP that doesn't toppost... :-)

I would have if it was a 200 line message, to save 100 rolls of my
mouse wheel (then again, if it was 200 lines and I was adding "me too"
I'd have trimmed it instead). Personal preference.

Cheers - Neil

Is that (top-posting) considered a no-no or something? Never heard of that.

Darren Humphries
Mobile Technology Solutions Consultant
www.SmartMobileAssets.com

s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:46:53 GMT, Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
> wrote:
>
>> Yay nice work Clinton, glad you made it ;-))
>
> Hmmmz, at least one MVP that doesn't toppost... :-)
>
> (Congratz to Clinton BTW)
>

ROFL! Nice David....


--
Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
Principle
Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
http://www.clintonfitch.com


"David C. Holley" <DavidCHolley@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:%23G11i8iEGHA.740@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> And here I am seeing this subject line and thinking that it was another
> spam attack on him. Not that that's ever happened before.
>
> Congrats!
>
> Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev] wrote:
>> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
>> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
>> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>>
>> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all
>> visitors.
>>
>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>>

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:59:53 -0500, Darren Humphries wrote:

> Is that (top-posting) considered a no-no or something? Never heard of that.

To my knowledge it is (a big no-no). Most newsgroups I visit prefer
bottom-posting (/and/ trimmed quotes). Ctrl+End takes you to the
bottom quickly and scrolling can be done with the help of the spacebar
(even in OE). It seems more logical too.

Some arguments pro bottom-posting are found here:
<http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html>

--
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SanDisk CF 256 MiB | Sandisk SD 1 GiB | D-Link DBT-120

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:59:53 -0500, Darren Humphries
<darrenNOSPAM_THANX@smartmobileassets.com> wrote:

>Is that (top-posting) considered a no-no or something? Never heard of that.

It has been the subject of several threads. Some folks have strong
opinions.


>
>Darren Humphries
>Mobile Technology Solutions Consultant
>www.SmartMobileAssets.com
>
>s|b wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:46:53 GMT, Neil Smith [MVP Digital Media]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yay nice work Clinton, glad you made it ;-))
>>
>> Hmmmz, at least one MVP that doesn't toppost... :-)
>>
>> (Congratz to Clinton BTW)
>>

-----------------------------------------
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Boston, MA 02116
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>> Most newsgroups I visit prefer bottom-posting (/and/ trimmed quotes) <<

Most newsgroups don't get accessed using two inch wide screens ;-)

IMHO, it doesn't matter how you format your post in this forum, what
matters is that the needs get addressed.

Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]

s|b wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:59:53 -0500, Darren Humphries wrote:
>
>> Is that (top-posting) considered a no-no or something? Never heard
>> of that.
>
> To my knowledge it is (a big no-no). Most newsgroups I visit prefer
> bottom-posting (/and/ trimmed quotes). Ctrl+End takes you to the
> bottom quickly and scrolling can be done with the help of the
spacebar
> (even in OE). It seems more logical too.

This is an oft-discussed subject in here. There seems to be a general
concensus that this being a Pocket PC group, and due to the exigencies
of using a Pocket PC newsreader to access the group, top posting is
acceptable, or even preferable. Keyboard shortcuts and scrolling
through a message etc aren't quite so convenient in a Pocket PC
newsreader.

Personally, I just go with the flow (literally). There's nothing worse
than mixed top and bottom posting in a thread.

OK, now I'm confused. ;)

I think I'll go with top posting as that is what most are used to with
e-mail and what works best on these small screens.

Darren Humphries
Mobile Technology Solutions Consultant
www.SmartMobileAssets.com

Tony A. wrote:
> s|b wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:59:53 -0500, Darren Humphries wrote:
>>
>>> Is that (top-posting) considered a no-no or something? Never heard
>>> of that.
>> To my knowledge it is (a big no-no). Most newsgroups I visit prefer
>> bottom-posting (/and/ trimmed quotes). Ctrl+End takes you to the
>> bottom quickly and scrolling can be done with the help of the
> spacebar
>> (even in OE). It seems more logical too.
>
> This is an oft-discussed subject in here. There seems to be a general
> concensus that this being a Pocket PC group, and due to the exigencies
> of using a Pocket PC newsreader to access the group, top posting is
> acceptable, or even preferable. Keyboard shortcuts and scrolling
> through a message etc aren't quite so convenient in a Pocket PC
> newsreader.
>
> Personally, I just go with the flow (literally). There's nothing worse
> than mixed top and bottom posting in a thread.
>
>

"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" > wrote

> >> Most newsgroups I visit prefer bottom-posting (/and/ trimmed quotes) <<
>
> Most newsgroups don't get accessed using two inch wide screens ;-)
>
> IMHO, it doesn't matter how you format your post in this forum, what
> matters is that the needs get addressed.

and what the poster is responding too helps as well.

Regards,

Mike O'Brien

life is full of choices; choices have consequences

On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 20:54:12 -0000, Tony A. wrote:

> This is an oft-discussed subject in here. There seems to be a general
> concensus that this being a Pocket PC group, and due to the exigencies
> of using a Pocket PC newsreader to access the group, top posting is
> acceptable, or even preferable. Keyboard shortcuts and scrolling
> through a message etc aren't quite so convenient in a Pocket PC
> newsreader.

I think this is a good argument, although it's a bit controversial. If
a person is using a PPC newsreader and he wants to read the quotes at
the bottom, then he has to scroll down and then back up to read the
reply. If this person isn't planning on reading the quotes, then why
add quoted text (at the bottom)? This way there's more text/data that
has to be downloaded and I don't think a PPC has a fast connection
(does it?). So: less text = faster.

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SanDisk CF 256 MiB | Sandisk SD 1 GiB | D-Link DBT-120

Congratulations!


"Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]"
<management@NOSPAMMINGME.clintonfitch.com> wrote in message
news:efQYDQaEGHA.1816@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Thanks Bev, Al and Don. I appreciate it and I'm honored and happy to be
> an MVP.
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Clinton Fitch [MVP-Mobile Devices]
> Principle
> Clinton Fitch (Dot) Com!
> http://www.clintonfitch.com
>
>
>
> "Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
> message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
>> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
>> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>>
>> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all
>> visitors.
>>
>> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>>
>
>

Congrats Clinton.

You deserve the recognition for the years of gracious discourse and your
willingness to help those willing to ask for help.


"Beverly Howard [Ms-MVP/MobileDev]" <BevNoSpamBevHoward.com> wrote in
message news:%23R5SoeZEGHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Congratulations to Clinton Fitch, a fequent and knowledgable poster and
> responder here for over a year and in other forums for his receiving
> Microsoft's award as a Mobile Devices MVP (Most Valuable Professional)
>
> His caliber of input is what makes this forum so valuable to all visitors.
>
> Beverly Howard [MS MVP-Mobile Devices]
>

s|b wrote:
[...]
> I think this is a good argument, although it's a bit controversial.
If
> a person is using a PPC newsreader and he wants to read the quotes
at
> the bottom, then he has to scroll down and then back up to read the
> reply. If this person isn't planning on reading the quotes, then why
> add quoted text (at the bottom)? This way there's more text/data
that
> has to be downloaded and I don't think a PPC has a fast connection
> (does it?). So: less text = faster.

Although many PPC's do have fast connections via wi-fi these days, I
do agree with you in theory, but in reality getting people to trim
their posts is even harder than getting them to consistently top or
bottom post :P. At least with top-posting, the new text in a reply can
often be read without scrolling, and only those with slow connections
suffer from the wasted bandwidth of the quoted text.

I should add that that's not my argument, I'm just repeating what's
been said by some of the group regulars in the past, but it does make
sense to me. This is the only group where I top-post, and then only if
the thread is already in top-posted mode.

<from the website:>"Please note, you will not be able to sync over a
wireless link, just use the network while synced to the PC"

still no wi-fi sync - :-(


"Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:uPt6b$gEGHA.716@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
| "...Microsoft dangerously removed"?
|
| Huh?
|
| --
|
| Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
|
| Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
| mutual benefit of all of us...
| The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
| rights...
|
| "a" <andres848@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uD8AGWgEGHA.212@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| >
| > *** Introducing AirFix v1.0b: A new, free software tool for developers
and
| > security experts. Take back the WiFi Active Sync that Microsoft
| > dangerously removed. Requires a WM5.0 device and ActiveSync 4.x. Read
more
| > and download here:
| > http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/airfix/airfix.html
| >
|